{"id":3129,"date":"2011-06-24T03:00:12","date_gmt":"2011-06-24T09:00:12","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/?p=3129"},"modified":"2011-07-15T13:26:14","modified_gmt":"2011-07-15T19:26:14","slug":"the-perils-of-internet-posting","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/2011\/06\/24\/the-perils-of-internet-posting\/","title":{"rendered":"The Perils of Internet Posting"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_2840\" style=\"width: 195px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/04\/Profile-pic-4.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2840\" class=\"size-full wp-image-2840 \" style=\"margin: 6px;\" title=\"Kelley Way, Literary Lawyer\" src=\"https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/04\/Profile-pic-4.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"185\" height=\"184\" srcset=\"https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/04\/Profile-pic-4.jpg 185w, https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/04\/Profile-pic-4-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/04\/Profile-pic-4-160x160.jpg 160w, https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/04\/Profile-pic-4-520x520.jpg 520w, https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/04\/Profile-pic-4-720x720.jpg 720w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 185px) 100vw, 185px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-2840\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Kelley Way is a member of the California Bar<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Welcome to the semi-regular series on artist entrepreneurship. Today we focus on writers specifically and on an important issue to be aware of in today&#8217;s electronic world \u2014<em> what you can or cannot post online and still be considered unpublished<\/em> \u2014 from\u00a0<strong>our monthly guest columnist, Kelley Way, <\/strong>a lawyer specializing in literary law. If you have general questions for Kelley on contracts or other aspects of literary law, be sure to comment below.\u00a0<strong><em>Thanks! <\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em><\/em><\/strong>PS. A list of books on literary law can be found\u00a0<a title=\"A list of book on literary law\" href=\"https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/resources\/resources-books-on-literary-law\/\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">And now for a bit of necessary legalese:\u00a0<em><\/em><em>Please note that this article does not constitute legal advice, and that an attorney-client relationship is not formed by reading the article or by commenting thereon.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>^*^<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I came across an interesting warning while browsing a writer\u2019s forum: it told writers to be wary when posting their works at the forum, because some publishers considered that a publication and would pay much less for it than they would have if the work was \u201cunpublished.\u201d My curiosity raised, I did some digging to see whether this was really true.<\/p>\n<p>According to the <strong>Copyright Act<\/strong>, a \u201cpublication\u201d is defined as \u201cthe distribution of copies\u2026of a work to the public by sale or other transfer of ownership, or by rental, lease, or lending. The offering to distribute copies\u2026to a group of persons for purposes of further distribution&#8230;constitutes publication.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>In English, that means a work is published when it\u2019s given out to the general public, or given to someone else to give to the general public for you.<\/p>\n<p>This didn\u2019t quite answer the question, so I looked around for some cases. I learned from these that a limited or necessary distribution was not a publication, and that typically courts found publication when the work was sold for money.<\/p>\n<p>Unfortunately, I couldn\u2019t find any case that asked (or answered) whether posting a work online counted as a publication, which means that the courts haven\u2019t decided this question yet.<\/p>\n<p><strong>So what should you do in the meantime? <\/strong>One option, if you haven\u2019t posted your work already, is not to post it at all. That\u2019s probably the safest route, but there are advantages to posting online that may outweigh the risks, such as building a fanbase and getting community feedback.<\/p>\n<p>If you\u2019re trying to build a fanbase, a good compromise may be to only post a part of your work online, so readers have an idea of what it\u2019s about but there are still parts that haven\u2019t been made available to them. If you\u2019re trying to get feedback on your work, post it on a forum where registration is required to view it, or access to it is otherwise limited.<\/p>\n<p>As I said earlier, limited distribution is not a publication, so there shouldn\u2019t be a problem if your work is not available to the general public. An additional precaution would be to give a disclaimer in your post. <strong>Disclaimers<\/strong> are popular in the legal world \u2013 like the one here telling you this article does not constitute legal advice.<\/p>\n<p>If you were to write in the post something to the effect of \u201cThis draft is being posted solely for the purpose of critique and feedback, to be used in later editing; this should not be considered a publication of a final work,\u201d in addition to giving others limited access to it, your bases would be pretty well covered.<\/p>\n<p>If you\u2019re already in the situation where your work is posted online and a publisher insists it\u2019s therefore been published, you can see if you can change his or her mind. Since the courts haven\u2019t decided this point, you could make <strong>a good argument <\/strong>for why the online post does not count as a publication, particularly if you have edited the work since it was posted.<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s all part of the negotiation process. It may not get you far if the publisher wants to be hardnosed about it, but it can\u2019t hurt to try.<\/p>\n<p>If that doesn\u2019t work, you may be better off looking for another publisher that\u2019s willing to pay fair value for your work, or alternatively, publish the work yourself. And of course, you can always take the issue to the nearest courthouse. This will continue to be a gray area until someone does, so why shouldn\u2019t that someone be you? \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n<p>^*^<\/p>\n<p>Kelley Way was born and raised in Walnut Creek, California. She graduated from UC Davis with a B.A. in English, followed by a Juris Doctorate. Kelley is a member of the California Bar, and an aspiring writer of young adult fantasy novels. She can be contacted at\u00a0<a href=\"mailto:KelleyAWay@gmail.com\">KelleyAWay@gmail.com<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Welcome to the semi-regular series on artist entrepreneurship. 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