{"id":27645,"date":"2023-10-09T06:01:05","date_gmt":"2023-10-09T13:01:05","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/?p=27645"},"modified":"2023-10-25T17:53:35","modified_gmt":"2023-10-26T00:53:35","slug":"the-future-of-publishing-with-russell-nohelty","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/2023\/10\/09\/the-future-of-publishing-with-russell-nohelty\/","title":{"rendered":"The Future of Publishing with Russell Nohelty"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/How-To-Write-The-Future-blog-post-images-Instagram-Post-Square-300-\u00d7-300-px-1.png\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-27646 size-full\" title=\"The Future of Publishing with Russell Nohelty - How To Write the Future podcast episode 66\" src=\"https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/How-To-Write-The-Future-blog-post-images-Instagram-Post-Square-300-\u00d7-300-px-1.png\" alt=\"Vavy background for blog post The Future of Publishing with Russell Nohelty\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/How-To-Write-The-Future-blog-post-images-Instagram-Post-Square-300-\u00d7-300-px-1.png 300w, https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/How-To-Write-The-Future-blog-post-images-Instagram-Post-Square-300-\u00d7-300-px-1-80x80.png 80w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/How-To-Write-The-Future-blog-post-images-Instagram-Post-Square-300-\u00d7-300-px.png\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-27647 size-full\" title=\"Quote from The Future of Publishing with Russell Nohelty \" src=\"https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/How-To-Write-The-Future-blog-post-images-Instagram-Post-Square-300-\u00d7-300-px.png\" alt=\"Quote from The Future of Publishing with Russell Nohelty \" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/How-To-Write-The-Future-blog-post-images-Instagram-Post-Square-300-\u00d7-300-px.png 300w, https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/How-To-Write-The-Future-blog-post-images-Instagram-Post-Square-300-\u00d7-300-px-80x80.png 80w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h2 style=\"text-align: center;\">The Future of Publishing with Russell Nohelty &#8211; episode 66<\/h2>\n<p>Go\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/2023\/09\/27\/author-ecosystem-with-russell-nohelty-part-1\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">HERE<\/a>, to listen to part 1 and for the full transcript.<\/p>\n<p>Go <a href=\"https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/2023\/10\/04\/author-ecosystem-with-russell-nohelty-part-2\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">HERE<\/a>, to listen to part 2 and for the full transcript.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cIt is about technology, but it&#8217;s really about where the industry is going in one to three years and how you can take advantage of it.\u201d \u2014 Russell Nohelty<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In \u201cEpisode 66. <\/span><b>The Future of Publishing with Russell Nohelty,<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201d host Beth Barany, creativity coach, teacher, and science fiction and fantasy novelist, talks to bestselling fantasy author, publisher, and podcast host Russell Nohelty to discuss Russell\u2019s upcoming event: \u201cThe Future of Publishing Mastermind\u201d and he shares what to expect, the many things you\u2019ll learn, and a bit about the guests who will be attending.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Platforms The podcast is available on <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/66-the-future-of-publishing-with-russell-nohelty\/id1641025914?i=1000630661257\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Apple Podcasts<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.google.com\/feed\/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5idXp6c3Byb3V0LmNvbS8yMDEyMDYxLnJzcw\/episode\/QnV6enNwcm91dC0xMzczODQ5Mw?sa=X&amp;ved=2ahUKEwikloTQgOmBAxX3sScCHXl4AWMQkfYCegQIARAF\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Google Podcasts<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/www.buzzsprout.com\/2012061\/13738493-66-the-future-of-publishing-with-russell-nohelty\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Buzzsprout<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/5uNQpOyA52BdEPRsYPK8Ru\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/podcastaddict.com\/episode\/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.buzzsprout.com%2F2012061%2F13738493-66-the-future-of-publishing-with-russell-nohelty.mp3&amp;podcastId=4025186\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Podcast Addict<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/music.amazon.com\/podcasts\/ca590618-5630-4450-aa17-7e2f35359a76\/episodes\/8ad89d0c-3ab8-481a-ad3c-ab8cf87840dc\/how-to-write-the-future-66-the-future-of-publishing-with-russell-nohelty\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Amazon Music<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/vm-7mqdUjGw?si=rRpMHBPnabCQUr8x\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Youtube<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"YouTube video player\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/vm-7mqdUjGw?si=wUUFuNgOidq3LbBP\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<div id=\"buzzsprout-large-player\" style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/div>\n<p><script type='text\/javascript' charset='utf-8' src='https:\/\/www.buzzsprout.com\/2012061.js?container_id=buzzsprout-large-player&#038;player=large'><\/script><\/p>\n<h2><b>RESOURCES\u00a0<\/b><\/h2>\n<p><b>Future of Publishing Mastermind:<\/b><a href=\"https:\/\/thefutureofpublishingmastermind.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">https:\/\/thefutureofpublishingmastermind.com\/<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<p><b>Author Ecosystem Quiz:<\/b><a href=\"http:\/\/www.authorecosystem.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">www.authorecosystem.com<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<p><b>Free World Building Workbook for Fiction Writers:<\/b><a href=\"https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/world-building-resources\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/world-building-resources\/<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<p><b>Sign up for the 30-minute Story Success Clinic here:<\/b><a href=\"https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/story-success-clinic\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/story-success-clinic\/<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<p><b>Get support for your fiction writing by a novelist and writing teacher and coach. Schedule an exploratory call here and see if Beth can support you today:<\/b> <a href=\"https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/discovery-call\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/discovery-call\/<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<p><b>Author Ecosystem with Russel Nohelty, Part 1 &#8211;<\/b><a href=\"https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/2023\/09\/27\/author-ecosystem-with-russell-nohelty-part-1\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/2023\/09\/27\/author-ecosystem-with-russell-nohelty-part-1\/<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<p><b>Author Ecosystem with Russel Nohelty, Part 2 &#8211; <\/b><a href=\"https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/2023\/10\/04\/author-ecosystem-with-russell-nohelty-part-2\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/2023\/10\/04\/author-ecosystem-with-russell-nohelty-part-2\/<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<h2><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">ABOUT RUSSEL NOHELTY\u00a0<\/span><\/h2>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/russellnohelty-Russell-Nohelty-scaled.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-27622 alignleft\" src=\"https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/russellnohelty-Russell-Nohelty-240x300.jpg\" alt=\"Image of Russel Nohelty\" width=\"167\" height=\"209\" srcset=\"https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/russellnohelty-Russell-Nohelty-240x300.jpg 240w, https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/russellnohelty-Russell-Nohelty-819x1024.jpg 819w, https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/russellnohelty-Russell-Nohelty-768x960.jpg 768w, https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/russellnohelty-Russell-Nohelty-1229x1536.jpg 1229w, https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/russellnohelty-Russell-Nohelty-1638x2048.jpg 1638w, https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/russellnohelty-Russell-Nohelty-640x800.jpg 640w, https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/russellnohelty-Russell-Nohelty-scaled.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 167px) 100vw, 167px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Russell Nohelty (<\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.russellnohelty.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">www.russellnohelty.com<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">) is a <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">USA Today<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> bestselling fantasy author who has written dozens of novels and graphic novels including <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The Godsverse Chronicles<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The Obsidian Spindle Saga<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, and <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Ichabod Jones: Monster Hunter<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">. He is the publisher of Wannabe Press, co-host of the Kickstart Your Book Sales podcast, cofounder of the Writer MBA training academy, and cofounder of The Future of Publishing Mastermind. He also co-created the Author Ecosystem archetype system to help authors thrive. You can take our quiz to find your perfect ecosystem at<\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.authorecosystem.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">www.authorecosystem.com<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">. He lives in Los Angeles with his wife and dogs.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Substack:<\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/authorstack.substack.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">http:\/\/authorstack.substack.com<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<h2><\/h2>\n<h2><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">ABOUT THE <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">HOW TO WRITE THE FUTURE<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> PODCAST\u00a0<\/span><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">How To Write The Future<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> podcast is for science fiction and fantasy writers who want to write positive futures and successfully bring those stories out into the marketplace. Hosted by Beth Barany, science fiction novelist and creativity coach for writers.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Tips for fiction writers! This podcast is for you if you have questions like:<\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">How do I create a believable world for my science fiction story?<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">How do I figure out what&#8217;s not working if my story feels flat?<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">How do I make my story more interesting and alive?<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">This podcast is for readers too if you\u2019re at all curious about the future of humanity.<\/span><\/p>\n<h2><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Transcript for The Future of Publishing with Russell Nohelty\u00a0<\/span><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Hey everyone, welcome back to another episode of <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">How to Write the Future.<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> I am your host Beth Barany.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Just want to remind you that this is the podcast for science fiction and fantasy writers who want to create positive, optimistic futures because when we vision what is possible and we put that into our books, we help make it so for the world. This podcast is also for anyone who cares about the future.<\/span><\/p>\n<h3><b>About the Future of Publishing <\/b><\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In this episode, I talk with Russell Nohelty about the future of publishing, his big mastermind coming in 2024.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Also, listen back to parts one and two of our conversation where we went in-depth into his author ecosystem system. I found it really helpful in terms of understanding my book marketing process and my creative process so go check it out. Take the quiz: author ecosystem.com.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">One huge big caveat, Russell&#8217;s material is really for writers who are in the marketplace. You have one or a few books published. And you want to get better at marketing your work. You&#8217;re looking at strengthening your skills as a author in the marketplace. So keep that in mind as you listen to him talk. And.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">All right. Stay tuned for the rest of our conversation on the future of publishing.<\/span><\/p>\n<h3><b>About this upcoming mastermind event <\/b><\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So let&#8217;s talk about the future of publishing. You&#8217;re running a big mastermind, next year, I believe. Right?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">RUSSELL NOHELTY<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Yes, February 26th to 29th in New Orleans.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">BETH BARANY<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Wow. And I, I&#8217;m all about the future. What&#8217;s going on in the future? People want to know.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">RUSSELL NOHELTY<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So it&#8217;s a lot of this.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I mean, it&#8217;s a lot of personalized marketing. So we have some really amazing.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So the first thing is, most conferences are set up to be: I talk to many.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We wanted to set up a true mastermind, which is all small group. So there&#8217;s tables of nine to 10 people, and we are very selective of who we let in to the mastermind so that everyone gets a chance to learn from each other.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Every day, they&#8217;re small group and round tables and long lunches. And mostly it&#8217;s about working through your &#8211; we want all hundred people to be able to talk to all hundred people by the end of the conference.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So we have\u2013<\/span><\/p>\n<h3><b>Key Attendees\u00a0<\/b><\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Pierre Janti is going to come in and teach us how to make a seven-figure web store.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We have an AI panel with Steph Padronis, Kevin McLaughlin, and Elizabeth Ann West. Steph and Elizabeth are from Future Fiction Academy. And then, Kevin recently edited the AI issue of Indie Author Magazine. So, top people for, for that.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We are about to announce somebody who works at a very well-known company to talk to us about transmedia.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We also have retailers. We have Kobo who is coming, Kickstarter is coming. We have a virtual component.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">There is some panels and such, but we are trying to make it so that it&#8217;s people talking to each other.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So while the attendees may not necessarily be that exciting for a conference because you don&#8217;t really &#8211; you would be interested in talking to people but they&#8217;re not the main &#8211; they&#8217;re not adding a huge amount of value to the conference outside of your enjoyment.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We think it&#8217;s really important that the attendees are amazing who are coming.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">They&#8217;re going to be the ones who are teaching you and helping you and sitting with you and trying to work through problems.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We have Shell and Alice from IndieAuthor Magazine and IndieAuthorTools. They&#8217;re going to do some talks about how to take your career to the next level through technology.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">And then we have- Melissa Storm is coming.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">If you go to the future of publishing.com, you can see all of, the speakers who&#8217;ve, with all the attendees we&#8217;ve announced right now.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">It&#8217;s like a who&#8217;s who.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Claire Taylor is an Enneagram coach is going to be there.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">It&#8217;s organized by Mel Jolly and Todrick Kandahl, who run Ninc the organizers of Ninc,\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Jennifer Probst, Sarah Cannon, Aaron Wright from Write for the Win, Ella Barnard from Author Like a Boss, Kat Caldwell, Jennifer Hilt from the Trope Thesaurus, Nicholas Nelson, who runs Wordsmith Writing Coaches.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Those are the only people that have said &#8211; we can officially say who they are, but it&#8217;s like a dream come true to be able to just be in a room with the people that &#8211; I have been in a room with many of them.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I have chatted with them. I&#8217;ve worked with many of them, and it&#8217;s a life-changing experience to just be in their presence for an hour. So they&#8217;re going to all come to our event to eat amazing food. Also, it&#8217;s catered. Breakfast and lunch is catered.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So it&#8217;s, it&#8217;s just an &#8211; it&#8217;s overwhelming, but the content &#8211; everyone&#8217;s like, Oh, so it&#8217;s going to be all about NFTs and AI.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">And I&#8217;m like, it is about technology, but it&#8217;s really about where the industry is going in one to three years and how you can take advantage of it.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">As you know, as a Grassland, being at the forefront of where technology is going gives you the best chance to catch the wave and get the biggest upside.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">And these are people who are coming, whether they&#8217;re speaking or vending or attending, who are just like the absolute best humans in the world who are taking advantage of &#8211; who&#8217;ve probably been down the road and can tell you in 10 seconds why you&#8217;re right or wrong about something. And just be able to spend four days with these people is, is kind of incredible.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I&#8217;m constantly shocked that we&#8217;re able to have these people, have the trust that we have. And then we also have access to all of our courses.<\/span><\/p>\n<h3><b>More benefits of joining the mastermind\u00a0<\/b><\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">If you join us in the Mastermind, we also do monthly calls. So on the calls, we&#8217;ve had Steve Piper, Becca Syme, Amelia Rose, and Michael Evans from Ream.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We&#8217;ve had Tyler James from Comics Launch, probably Jennifer Hilt come in next month. We have just some incredible creators. We have Mike Bloom from Pipsqueak Films, who is going to talk about transmedia. It&#8217;s just an absolutely incredible experience.<\/span><\/p>\n<h3><b>Direct Sales\u00a0<\/b><\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We&#8217;re trying to give you the tools because, in direct sales specifically, many people try to equate direct sales with one thing like direct sales is memberships.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Direct sales is web stores. Direct sales is Kickstarter. And while retailer sales are in many ways, one thing.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Like if it&#8217;s Amazon ads, you put that book on Amazon, and you make the blurb how they tell you to make the blurb, and you run ads the way they tell you. There&#8217;s like not that many, it&#8217;s not that much variability.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">When you expand out from KU into wide, it becomes, wow, there&#8217;s seven platforms that have seven different optimizations. And then when you&#8217;re like, okay, I want to add direct sales, it becomes this huge other thing.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So what we&#8217;re trying to do is with the Future of Publishing is create an ecosystem where you can build from all of the tools, because it sounds scary on one side, wow, there&#8217;s so much, but most people are unsuccessful. Most authors haven&#8217;t figured it out.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Even if you have figured it out, you probably want to get more successful and you cap out at what a platform can do.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">And the beauty of where we live is like you know, until the 40s, it was a very specific upper class, leisure class, who could be writers. Between the 40s and the invention of the Kindle, that creation was confined to New York, LA, London, Paris, a couple of other cities in the world. If you were not there, you couldn&#8217;t just&#8230; Okay, cool. Bye. You can move here.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">And that&#8217;s what I was told. I mean, I live in LA and I&#8217;m glad I moved, but it was like, you can move to LA or you can move to LA or you could be unsuccessful. I don&#8217;t know. Like those are your two options.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">But now we live in a world where like, it&#8217;s hard, and it&#8217;s complicated, but like, you don&#8217;t have to be in KU. I don&#8217;t have any of my books on retailers. And you can still make a six-figure business. You can still do all of these things. And you can still say, Oh, wow, that didn&#8217;t work.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Well, I guess I&#8217;m not gonna &#8211; I, I have tried so many times to make a membership work, Beth.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I don&#8217;t know if you were part of my, uh\u2013<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">BETH BARANY<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">A little bit. Yeah.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">RUSSELL NOHELTY<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I think you were part of my Circle community that I started, the Wannabe Press one.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I&#8217;ve tried every platform, Patreon. There used to be one on &#8211; that Kickstarter-owned called Drip or Drop or something like that. I was part of that. And like, every time, unsuccessful.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">And if that happens to you when you were retailers, it&#8217;s like, well, I guess I gotta make a new book.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The beauty of direct sales and all the way that we live now, it&#8217;s just like, well, I don&#8217;t know.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Suddenly you&#8217;re like, wait, why does this work? I don&#8217;t does this works and like, it just suddenly fits with how your brain functions, and it changes everything for you.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">And that is the beauty of where we live.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The Reason for the Future of Publishing Conference<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">And the reason why we have this conference is because it&#8217;s hard to understand the scope. It&#8217;s impossible to understand the full scope.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We find different things, and we literally spend all day, every day, either talking about it or like working in it. And so for someone else who&#8217;s not working in it, it is nearly impossible to know how to do &#8211; and even if it&#8217;s on your radar to then do it, to then find the five actionable steps to do it, is nearly impossible.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So we&#8217;re like, what if we did a high-end event in New Orleans where people hopefully want to come in February and everyone comes?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We all just download our brain into one group file. And then we have all of this other post-convention talks and such to allow us to move ourselves along.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So we meet in 2025, hopefully, you know, we&#8217;ll all be at the forefront again. And then we can just keep staying at the forefront of where the industry is going.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">BETH BARANY<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Great. Really great. Well, Russell, I think we could keep going. This is such a great topic. Direct sales, author ecosystem, the future of publishing. I really am so grateful that you could be with us here today. So thank you. Thank you so much for being on.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Yeah, this is awesome.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">RUSSELL NOHELTY<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Thanks for having me.<\/span><\/p>\n<h3><b>Thanks and next time\u2026\u00a0<\/b><\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">BETH BARANY<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So that&#8217;s it for part three of my conversation with Russell, the final part of our three-part conversation. Again, go back and listen to parts one and two about his author ecosystem. And now you&#8217;ll be all caught up.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Stay tuned for next week when I have a discussion about what inspires my science fiction. And I&#8217;m going to talk about space elevators.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">And just a quick reminder, if you have any questions about this work that Russell and Monica are doing, be sure to check out author ecosystem.com and take their quiz.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Also be sure to check out their website for this event: the future of publishingmastermind.com. That&#8217;s the future of publishing mastermind.com to see his upcoming event in February of 2024 in New Orleans.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">All right until next time.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Write long and prosper.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Loved this episode? Leave us a review and rating here: <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.buzzsprout.com\/2012061\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">https:\/\/www.buzzsprout.com\/2012061<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<h2><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">ABOUT BETH BARANY\u00a0<\/span><\/h2>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/BETH-BARANY_2023_300px_01-e1692481023683.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-27411 alignleft\" src=\"https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/BETH-BARANY_2023_300px_01-e1692481023683.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"200\" height=\"200\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Beth Barany teaches science fiction and fantasy novelists how to write, edit, and publish their books as a coach, teacher, consultant, and developmental editor. She\u2019s an award-winning fantasy and science fiction novelist and runs the podcast, \u201cHow To Write The Future.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Learn more about Beth Barany at these sites:\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/author.bethbarany.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Author site<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> \/\u00a0 <\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/bethbarany.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Coaching site<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> \/ <\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/baranyschooloffiction.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">School of Fiction<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> \/ <\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.writersfunzone.com\/blog\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Writer\u2019s Fun Zone blog<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">CONNECT<\/span><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Contact Beth: <a href=\"https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/podcast\/#tve-jump-185b4422580\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/podcast\/#tve-jump-185b4422580<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Email: beth@bethbarany.com<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">LinkedIn: <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/bethbarany\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/bethbarany\/<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<h2><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">CREDITS\u00a0<\/span><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">EDITED WITH DESCRIPT: <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.descript.com?lmref=_w1WCA\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">https:\/\/www.descript.com?lmref=_w1WCA<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">MUSIC: Uppbeat.io<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">DISTRIBUTED BY BUZZSPROUT: <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.buzzsprout.com\/?referrer_id=1994465\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">https:\/\/www.buzzsprout.com\/?referrer_id=1994465<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">SHOW PRODUCTION BY Beth Barany<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">SHOW NOTES by Kerry-Ann McDade<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">***<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">For more \u201cHow To Write the Future\u201d episodes, go <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/podcast\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">here.<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">If you\u2019d like to invite Beth onto your podcast, drop her a note <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/contact-beth\/#contactbeth\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">here.<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Future of Publishing with Russell Nohelty &#8211; episode 66 Go\u00a0HERE, to listen to part 1 and for the full transcript. 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