{"id":27418,"date":"2023-08-21T03:26:38","date_gmt":"2023-08-21T10:26:38","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/?p=27418"},"modified":"2023-08-21T03:25:46","modified_gmt":"2023-08-21T10:25:46","slug":"bring-playfulness-to-your-writing-with-nina-hart-part-1","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/2023\/08\/21\/bring-playfulness-to-your-writing-with-nina-hart-part-1\/","title":{"rendered":"Bring Playfulness to Your Writing with Nina Hart, Part 1"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/86.png\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-27419 size-full\" title=\"Bring Playfulness to Your Writing with Nina Hart, Part 1\" src=\"https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/86.png\" alt=\"Image of Bring Playfulness to Your Writing with Nina Hart, Part 1\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/86.png 300w, https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/86-80x80.png 80w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/87.png\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-27420 size-full\" title=\"Quote from Bring Playfulness to Your Writing with Nina Hart, Part 1\" src=\"https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/87.png\" alt=\"Quote from Bring Playfulness to Your Writing with Nina Hart, Part 1\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/87.png 300w, https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/87-80x80.png 80w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h2 style=\"text-align: center;\"><b>Bring Playfulness to Your Writing with Nina Hart, Part 1 &#8211; How To Write the Future podcast, &#8211; episode 59<\/b><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cSo, I decided I would go back to beginner&#8217;s mind. I would stop taking classes. I would throw out all of the rules. The hooligan got to come into play at that time, my inner teenager or troublemaker.\u201d &#8211; Nina Hart<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In \u201cEpisode 59, Bring Playfulness to your Writing with Nina Hart, Part 1,\u201d host Beth Barany, creativity coach and teacher, and science fiction and fantasy novelist, talks to writer, performer, and fellow creativity coach and creative entrepreneur, Nina Hart, where they discuss how Nina decided to go back to the beginners mind with her writing and how she empowered herself to be her wild creative self. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Platforms The podcast is available on <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/59-bring-playfulness-to-your-writing-with-nina-hart-part-1\/id1641025914?i=1000625100688\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Apple Podcasts<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.google.com\/feed\/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5idXp6c3Byb3V0LmNvbS8yMDEyMDYxLnJzcw\/episode\/QnV6enNwcm91dC0xMzQzNzUwNg?sa=X&amp;ved=0CAUQkfYCahcKEwiIo5SmxO2AAxUAAAAAHQAAAAAQAQ\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Google Podcasts<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/www.buzzsprout.com\/2012061\/13437506-59-bring-playfulness-to-your-writing-with-nina-hart-part-1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Buzzsprout<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/4HVrErFxcwyTnmBLx97M6y\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/podcastaddict.com\/episode\/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.buzzsprout.com%2F2012061%2F13437506-59-bring-playfulness-to-your-writing-with-nina-hart-part-1.mp3&amp;podcastId=4025186\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Podcast Addict<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/music.amazon.com\/podcasts\/ca590618-5630-4450-aa17-7e2f35359a76\/episodes\/dae8f307-5dbb-4594-a538-dbb9678b302d\/how-to-write-the-future-59-bring-playfulness-to-your-writing-with-nina-hart-part-1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Amazon Music<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/KFOIwE3Ng-I\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Youtube<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"YouTube video player\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/KFOIwE3Ng-I\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<div id=\"buzzsprout-large-player\" style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/div>\n<p><script type='text\/javascript' charset='utf-8' src='https:\/\/www.buzzsprout.com\/2012061.js?container_id=buzzsprout-large-player&#038;player=large'><\/script><\/p>\n<h2><b>RESOURCES<\/b><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Paulo Freire:<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Paulo_Freire\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Paulo_Freire<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Free World Building Workbook for Fiction Writers:<\/span><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/world-building-resources\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/world-building-resources\/<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Sign up for the 30-minute Story Success Clinic here:<\/span><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/story-success-clinic\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/story-success-clinic\/<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Get support for your fiction writing by a novelist and writing teacher and coach. Schedule an exploratory call here and see if Beth can support you today:\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/discovery-call\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/discovery-call\/<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<h2><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">About Nina Hart\u00a0<\/span><\/h2>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/Nina-Hart.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-27421 alignleft\" src=\"https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/Nina-Hart.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"199\" height=\"132\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Nina Hart is the founder of &#8220;Writing from the Top of Your Head&#8221; workshops. She offers writing workshops and 1:1 first draft book coaching, and is a certified KaizenMuse Creativity Coach and Gateless Method writing facilitator. Her first collection of surreal short fictions called \u201cSomewhere in a Town You Never Knew Existed Somewhere\u201d was a finalist in Foreword Reviews\u2019 IndieFab Book of the Year Awards.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Nina spends her time as a right-brained, highly sensitive, creative entrepreneur. She is passionate about helping writers find their voice and reclaim the hooligan kid spirit that most people have buried under an \u201cadult\u201d veneer. Nina considers herself to be an improvisational writer &#8212; she was a blocked writer until she rediscovered the curious part of herself who could play, experiment, and explore. She offers online workshops, writing retreats, and 1:1 coaching. She plans to offer a facilitator training in the upcoming year<\/span><\/p>\n<h2><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Connect with Nina:<\/span><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Website &#8211; <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.writingfromthetopofyourhead.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">www.writingfromthetopofyourhead.com<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/writingfromthetopofyourhead\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Facebook<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> \/ <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/writingfromthetop\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Instagram<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> \/ <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/writingfromthetop\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">LinkedIn<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Sign up for Nina\u2019s newsletter to join FREE creativity chats + prompts monthly via Zoom. You&#8217;ll also get other freebies like &#8220;16 Writing Prompts to Slay Perfectionism&#8221; ebook.<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/nina.podia.com\/creativitychatsprompts\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">https:\/\/nina.podia.com\/creativitychatsprompts<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<h2><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">ABOUT THE <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">HOW TO WRITE THE FUTURE<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> PODCAST<\/span><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">How To Write The Future<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> podcast is for science fiction and fantasy writers who want to write positive futures and successfully bring those stories out into the marketplace. Hosted by Beth Barany, science fiction novelist and creativity coach for writers.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Tips for fiction writers! This podcast is for you if you have questions like:<\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">How do I create a believable world for my science fiction story?<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">How do I figure out what&#8217;s not working if my story feels flat?<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">How do I make my story more interesting and alive?<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">This podcast is for readers too if you\u2019re at all curious about the future of humanity.<\/span><\/p>\n<h2><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Transcript for episode 59 Bring Playfulness to your Writing, with guest Nina Hart, Part 1\u00a0<\/span><\/h2>\n<p><b>Intro + Invitation<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Are you looking for a way to dig into your world-building for your story?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Maybe you&#8217;re stuck. Maybe you don&#8217;t know where to begin. Maybe you have so many ideas, you don&#8217;t know how to organize them.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Well, if you would like to bring your story world alive for your readers, then I recommend that you check out my World Building Workbook for Fiction Writers. Now available.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">It&#8217;s at How To Write The Future.com.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Just head on over there.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Click, sign up. Put your name and email, and there you go.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">That workbook will be delivered to your inbox straight away.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>Welcome to How To Write The Future podcast\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Hey everyone. Welcome back to another episode of How to Write the Future. I&#8217;m very excited to bring, this interview to you today.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">A little bit about our podcast. This is a podcast for science fiction and fantasy writers who want to write positive, optimistic futures and for anyone who cares about the future because when we envision what is possible, we help make it so.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>Introducing Nina Hart, Founder of Writing from the Top of Your Head\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I&#8217;m so excited to bring today, my guest Nina Hart.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Welcome, Nina. I&#8217;m gonna share who you are to folks. I love your bio.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Nina Hart is the founder of Writing from the Top of Your Head Workshops. She offers writing workshops and one-on-one first draft book coaching and is a certified Kaizen-Muse Creativity Coach and Gateless Method writing facilitator. Her first collection of surreal short fiction called Somewhere in a Town You Never Knew Existed Somewhere was a finalist in Forward Reviews Indie Fab Book of the Year Awards. Nina spends her time as a right-brained, highly sensitive, creative entrepreneur. She&#8217;s passionate about helping writers find their voice and reclaim that hooligan kid spirit that most people have buried under an adult veneer.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Nina considers herself to be an improvisational writer. She was a blocked writer until she rediscovered the curious part of herself who could play, experiment, and explore. She offers online workshops, writing retreats, and one-on-one coaching.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">She plans to offer a facilitator training in the upcoming year, so stay tuned for that.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>Welcome Nina!<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So, Nina, welcome. I love your bio. I love hooligan spirit, and I&#8217;m so excited to have a conversation with you today. I feel like we&#8217;re cut from the same cloth with our playful energy and, really belief in, following the muse. So I know you gave me some awesome questions to ask you today, and I thought, well, let&#8217;s just dive in.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">NINA HART<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Oh, thank you for having me. I do feel like we are kindred spirits. So I&#8217;m really excited to have this conversation. I hope it helps some of your listeners.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">BETH BARANY<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Absolutely. I see so many writers who are blocked by perfectionism or that whole, am I doing it right? Or, just barreling forward and then sometimes getting experience from feedback that throws &#8217;em for a loop and then shuts down their creativity. Or writers who are just struggling all alone also and really are afraid to get feedback because of their tender heart, you know, and their soul that they&#8217;re putting into their work. Or previous experiences of being criticized about who they are. And so I really welcome this conversation around creativity and flow.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">And I&#8217;m really curious for you, what was your personal process in learning how to create flow in your writing?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">And you put in the note here that you&#8217;re allowed to mention the amusement park ride. So please tell us that story.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">NINA HART<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Yes. Thank you. Thank you so much. So much food for thought there, but I am one of those writers who through the practice of perfectionism, got myself a little stuck and, I had so many qualifications I had to pass through in order to be a quote unquote quote writer. And, I would go to writing classes and leave feeling so bad about myself.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">And even if people weren&#8217;t criticizing my writing per se, I would still have a very loud inner critic that would, you know, make me really not wanna write because who has fun writing, if they&#8217;re attacking their work or if they&#8217;re in fear.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So, I decided I would go back to beginner&#8217;s mind. I would stop taking classes. I would throw out all of the rules. The hooligan got to come into play at that time, my inner teenager or troublemaker.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I decided to unlearn everything I had learned about writing and relearn to create and write in my own way, and that was a process.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I went over and over certain prompts that I&#8217;d received from a person named Marilyn who actually did lead a writing group, but it wasn&#8217;t a class, and she was in her eighties and she came up with these bizarre, kind of nonsensical writing prompts.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">And I think there&#8217;s something about engaging nonsense, that sort of Dr. Suess-ian language that allows us to go back to our inner child. It allows us to start playing again and be curious and to drop the expectations.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So I just started playing in the Land of Marilyn prompts and other prompts that I gave myself, that once I had certain rules. if this is not fun, I am not going to do it. and I just started reconstituting myself.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The amusement park ride did come around after I had done some of that and I went back to Marilyn&#8217;s group and I felt\u2013<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">This is very strange, of course, but these are science fiction writers you are working with, so let&#8217;s just go to that place. Right? Go there, going all the way.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So I felt the top of my head open. It&#8217;s the only way I can describe it. In Marilyn&#8217;s class, I felt like finally, I was not censoring what was coming through me. I was embracing it and curious and happy about it. And with every prompt&#8211; say it was a 10 minute prompt, I felt like I was like strapping into a little amusement park ride and going, Hmm, I wonder where we&#8217;re gonna go now.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">And like an astronaut, I would just Go around the circle, and then at the end of the 10 minutes, plop, I would be back and I would be like, whoa. What was that?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Kind of in the vein of an improviser where you say yes to everything and after the improv is over with your partners, you don&#8217;t remember what you just did until you reflect back on it because you&#8217;re so in the moment and that&#8217;s kind of part of how I reconstituted my writing process.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">BETH BARANY<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Oh, that&#8217;s so beautiful. Your courage, the wonderment that you brought, and also that rule of it needing to be fun. I just love that. If there was one rule I could offer all writers, and it sounds like you too. It&#8217;s like, only do it if it&#8217;s fun. And even the hard stuff. The hard stuff can be fun too.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">You know, lean into what is fun, what is juicy, what is attractive there.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">That&#8217;s just wonderful.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">And I&#8217;m really curious because I write fiction: was there a specific incident or that moment when you&#8217;re walking outta class feeling so unhappy and you&#8217;re like, why is my life like this? Is there a specific incident?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u2018cause in fiction we talk about the turning point backstory that changes you in one direction or another, right? It can shape you for ill or good, not ill. Our characters start a story. They&#8217;ve been shaped by some marking event, something that shapes who they are in the moment on page one.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So here you are today, this writing coach who helps people embrace their inner hooligan.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I just love that. Was there a specific moment in time where you&#8217;re like, I don&#8217;t wanna be that kind of writer? I want something else. Do you have a story there?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">NINA HART<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">As a writer, I&#8217;m so interested in what you just said because of stories and their power and how we do need that character to have that incident where they&#8217;re at a turning point. I do think it was when I realized I am not having fun anymore and these classes are painful and I don&#8217;t feel safe.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">And I think I reflected at that time also upon my entire education in public schools in Cleveland, Ohio. There were a lot of good things about public school. There were also a lot of things that did not work for me. And I&#8217;ve got ADHD. I think I&#8217;m a different kind of learner and school, yeah, again, did not work for me.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">And so when I was in high school, I started reading many books on education because I wanted to figure out why is this not working for me. So I read John Dewey A.S Neill, later, a little bit later, Paulo Freire, the great Brazilian educator. And Paulo says, &#8220;We are not banks to be filled.&#8221;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We don&#8217;t deposit knowledge into ourselves. We are actually our experience. And who we are is what we bring to the world, and that&#8217;s what you bring out of students because they already know so much.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">And I think once I empowered myself to realize that I know what I know, and that is my greatest gift to anyone else.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">And to myself, like, instead of going to these experts who I thought were supposed to grant me permission to be a writer or whatever, I was like, No. This is who I am. So.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">BETH BARANY\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Oh, that&#8217;s so beautiful. And I just, I&#8217;m tearing up because, well, I don&#8217;t publicize this, but my Bachelor&#8217;s Degree is in Education as an Interdisciplinary Degree because UC Berkeley did not have an education undergraduate degree. I don&#8217;t think they do yet. Even though they have a school of education for your master&#8217;s or PhD.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So I read Freire. I read Dewey, and I actually read Freire in my Democracy and Education class where it was such a breakthrough class for me. I actually, quit college for some time after that class because that class is like, decide for yourself.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">NINA HART<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Yes.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">BETH BARANY<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Hey, everyone in class shall we decide to give ourselves the grades we think we deserve from this class?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">And the whole class was a discussion. The whole class was run as a participatory democracy with discussions about what is democracy, what is education, and that broke me wide open and made me realize I don&#8217;t wanna be in school. Why I&#8217;m in school? So I left. I was in au pair in Paris for a year. And of course, I came back to school &#8217;cause I knew I would.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I did want that. So the freedom that he talks about it, it makes me wanna revisit his work. &#8217;cause I was what, 19 when I read it.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So, I just love that you took it upon yourself to go, why isn&#8217;t it working? And what&#8217;s going on here? So beautiful.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">NINA HART<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Thank you. Can I interject that I was in San Francisco when I first learned about Paulo and I was at New College of California? I was like 21 years old, and my teacher taught a class called Education for Liberation. And Paulo came and taught us, I got to meet Paulo with Miles Horton. The person who founded the Highlander School in Tennessee. And Martin Luther King, Rosa Parks, all those people went to study with Miles, and Miles and Paulo were friends.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So it&#8217;s all of these. I just needed to say that we were there, doing similar things probably around the same time, and I love it.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">BETH BARANY<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Yeah. That&#8217;s such a great synchronicity. I think you&#8217;re a generation older than me. &#8217;cause this was in 1989, I think when-<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">NINA HART<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Yeah, I was like in their early eighties.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">BETH BARANY<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Okay. Not too far apart. Yeah.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">NINA HART<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Otherwise, you would&#8217;ve met Paulo.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">BETH BARANY<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Wow. That would&#8217;ve been cool. So incredible. There&#8217;s so much wonderful things here. I know there&#8217;s a big movement going on to rethink education, Rethinking Schools, I think is what it&#8217;s called. I&#8217;ve been tangential to that, or just paying attention because I&#8217;m deeply, deeply interested in education and how we educate the next generation and how can you and I, we&#8217;re like, how can we bring creativity to the fore?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Because being able to exercise the creative muscle is what is, in my opinion, going to allow us to think differently and create new stories, create new paradigms. It&#8217;s the only way we&#8217;re gonna get out of the way we&#8217;ve been doing things&#8211; is to learn how to exercise that creative muscle and try new things and go to the edge and be bold and be a hooligan and take those risks.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>Thanks for listening!\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Thanks for listening everyone.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">That was part one of my two-part interview with Nina Hart. Stay tuned for next week&#8217;s episode, where we will go into the value of permission to be creative. We&#8217;ll talk about how to elicit greater flow in your writing. There&#8217;s a fun writing prompt, dealing with jello. Plus, we&#8217;ll also talk about prioritizing process over product and self-care and more.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So, thanks again for listening to part one with Nina Hart, stay tuned for part two, and be sure to check the notes with this episode for how you can connect with Nina Hart and her program, &#8220;Writing from the top of your head.&#8221;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Please like, subscribe. And you know please share with the writers in your life who are writing science fiction and fantasy, and want to create positive, optimistic futures, because when we vision what is possible, we help make it so.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">That&#8217;s all for this week, everyone. Take care and happy writing.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>Questions for future episodes?\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">If you have any questions you would like me to feature on an upcoming episode of How To Write the Future, please write me. Let me know. I&#8217;m on all the socials. I have a contact form on my website, how to write the future.com. Your question can be featured on an upcoming episode.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>You Inspire me!\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Thank you so much, everyone for listening to my podcast. Your interest and feedback is so inspiring to me and helps me know that I&#8217;m helping you in some small way.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So, write long and prosper.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Outro<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Are you stuck and overwhelmed by world building?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Then check out my new World Building Workbook for Fiction Writers.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">It will help you brainstorm your way through all the challenges.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">It will help you bring specifics and clarity so that your book will come alive and your reader will feel immersed in your storyworld.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">When your reader is immersed, they don&#8217;t want to leave your story world and they will read on into the night and wait for the next book and bug you for the next book.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">If you would like to bring your story world alive for your readers, then<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Head over to HowToWriteTheFuture.com and sign up for yours today.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Loved this episode? Leave us a review and rating here: <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.buzzsprout.com\/2012061\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">https:\/\/www.buzzsprout.com\/2012061<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<h2><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">ABOUT BETH BARANY\u00a0<\/span><\/h2>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/BETH-BARANY_2023_300px_01-e1692481023683.png\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-27411 size-full\" title=\"Image of Beth Barany\" src=\"https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/BETH-BARANY_2023_300px_01-e1692481023683.png\" alt=\"Image of Beth Barany\" width=\"200\" height=\"200\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Beth Barany teaches science fiction and fantasy novelists how to write, edit, and publish their books as a coach, teacher, consultant, and developmental editor. She\u2019s an award-winning fantasy and science fiction novelist and runs the podcast, \u201cHow To Write The Future.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Learn more about Beth Barany at these sites:\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/author.bethbarany.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Author site<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> \/\u00a0 <\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/bethbarany.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Coaching site<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> \/ <\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/baranyschooloffiction.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">School of Fiction<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> \/ <\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.writersfunzone.com\/blog\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Writer\u2019s Fun Zone blog<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">CONNECT<\/span><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Contact Beth: <a href=\"https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/podcast\/#tve-jump-185b4422580\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/podcast\/#tve-jump-185b4422580<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Email: beth@bethbarany.com<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">LinkedIn: <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/bethbarany\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/bethbarany\/<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<h2><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">CREDITS\u00a0<\/span><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">EDITED WITH DESCRIPT: <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.descript.com?lmref=_w1WCA\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">https:\/\/www.descript.com?lmref=_w1WCA<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">MUSIC: Uppbeat.io<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">DISTRIBUTED BY BUZZSPROUT: <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.buzzsprout.com\/?referrer_id=1994465\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">https:\/\/www.buzzsprout.com\/?referrer_id=1994465<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">SHOW PRODUCTION BY Beth Barany<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">SHOW NOTES by Kerry-Ann McDade<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">***<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">For more \u201cHow To Write the Future\u201d episodes, go <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/podcast\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">here.<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">If you\u2019d like to invite Beth onto your podcast, drop her a note <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/contact-beth\/#contactbeth\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">here.<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Bring Playfulness to Your Writing with Nina Hart, Part 1 &#8211; How To Write the Future podcast, &#8211; episode 59 \u201cSo, I decided I would go back to beginner&#8217;s mind. 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