{"id":24627,"date":"2021-09-28T03:00:42","date_gmt":"2021-09-28T10:00:42","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/?p=24627"},"modified":"2021-09-21T08:13:36","modified_gmt":"2021-09-21T15:13:36","slug":"3-ways-to-identify-a-publishing-scam-by-thao-nguyen","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/2021\/09\/28\/3-ways-to-identify-a-publishing-scam-by-thao-nguyen\/","title":{"rendered":"3 Ways to Identify a Publishing Scam by Thao Nguyen"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/3-Ways-to-Identify-a-Publishing-Scam-by-Thao-Nguyen.png\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-24631 size-medium\" title=\"3 Ways to Identify a Publishing Scam by Thao Nguyen\" src=\"https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/3-Ways-to-Identify-a-Publishing-Scam-by-Thao-Nguyen-300x300.png\" alt=\"3 Ways to Identify a Publishing Scam by Thao Nguyen\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/3-Ways-to-Identify-a-Publishing-Scam-by-Thao-Nguyen-300x300.png 300w, https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/3-Ways-to-Identify-a-Publishing-Scam-by-Thao-Nguyen-80x80.png 80w, https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/3-Ways-to-Identify-a-Publishing-Scam-by-Thao-Nguyen-320x320.png 320w, https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/3-Ways-to-Identify-a-Publishing-Scam-by-Thao-Nguyen.png 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>Let\u2019s welcome back monthly columnist <a href=\"https:\/\/www.writersfunzone.com\/blog\/?s=Thao+Nguyen\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Thao Nguyen<\/a> as she shares with us \u201c3 Ways to Identify a Publishing Scam.\u201d Enjoy!<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">***<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Getting published as a new writer is already a feat in and of itself.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">However, it becomes extra challenging when predatory companies scheme to make a profit out of authors\u2019 dreams.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Vanity presses and dodgy book marketing services will commonly claim to help authors\u2014but most of them will simply charge thousands of dollars in exchange for haphazardly rendered services.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><strong>They often target new,<\/strong> inexperienced writers who are eager to reach their publishing goals. And in all honesty, scammers can be quite convincing.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Who doesn\u2019t want to wake up with a publishing offer in your inbox?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">While we always encourage writers to thoroughly research any company they\u2019re working with, there are three crucial features that can help you identify a <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/blog.reedsy.com\/scams-and-publishing-companies-to-avoid\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">publishing scam<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> on sight.<\/span><\/p>\n<h2><b>1. It\u2019s a Publishing Scam if the Publisher Suddenly Approaches You<\/b><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">First things first, if <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">the company approaches you<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u00a0via email, social media, or by phone, a red flag should already be waving in your head.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><strong>In traditional publishing,<\/strong> if you want to work with a publisher, you have to submit something to them, and almost always with the help of a <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/blog.reedsy.com\/literary-agents\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">literary agent<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Traditional publishers will always receive more manuscripts than they can take on\u2014their submission systems are built to make sure that their slush-piles are filled with manuscripts that roughly match what they\u2019re looking for.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><strong>As an author<\/strong>, this can be a frustratingly long chain to work your way through, but it <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">is <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">the established route.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">A smaller publisher might be open to \u201cunagented submissions\u201d; however, you\u2019d still have to be the one to reach out and send your work to the publishing house.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">It\u2019s <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">never <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">the other way around.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><strong>As such<\/strong>, getting contacted by a publisher is very much out of the ordinary. Such a publisher almost certainly hasn\u2019t read it and probably doesn\u2019t really care about your book at all!<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">They\u2019ll ask you to pay a production fee to get your book edited, printed, or published on some <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/blog.reedsy.com\/guide\/ebook\/ebook-distribution\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">ebook publishing platforms<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> (which you can easily do by yourself), but it probably won\u2019t even meet the quality standards of the market.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Sometimes, they\u2019ll offer to get you a <\/strong><a href=\"https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/2021\/06\/08\/what-is-copyright-by-kelley-way\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">copyright<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> or ISBN; though again, these are not as complicated to get as you\u2019d think.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The company will also assure you that they\u2019re giving your work the marketing it needs.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">What they\u2019ll <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">actually<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> do will likely have little effect on sales (for example, they might write you a press release that no one will read), and all your work will be for nothing.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>So don\u2019t fall for their trap!<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">No publisher will contact you by themselves, and if one does, you should put them in your spam box <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">without hesitation<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">.<\/span><\/p>\n<h2><b>2. It\u2019s a Publishing Scam if They Ask You to Pay Absurd Rates<\/b><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">What \u201cabsurd rates\u201d means can differ depending on whether you want to publish the traditional way or the indie way.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><strong>Traditionally,<\/strong> publishers and agents don\u2019t ask for any upfront payments. In fact, a publisher pays <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">you<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> an advance when they acquire your manuscript.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">This is because publishers don\u2019t make money from authors, they make money from the royalties.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><strong>In exchange for the advance,<\/strong> a traditional house will only give you 5\u201315% of the cover price when the book sells. The agent also takes a cut of the sales revenue, so your earnings are even slimmer than that.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">However, a legit publisher bankrolls the editing, design, and marketing to make sure that your book sells well, so you don\u2019t have to pay any production cost whatsoever.<\/span><\/p>\n<h3><b>The Exception<\/b><\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">A legitimate exception is if you work with a hybrid publisher.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Hybrid presses will offer to pay some of the cost while you\u2019ll pay the remainder. As a result, they\u2019ll also let you have a higher royalty rate than traditional publishers.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><strong>If you\u2019re planning to work with a hybrid publisher<\/strong>, do some research to make sure they\u2019re not over-estimating the production cost. Check out the <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.ibpa-online.org\/page\/hybrid-publisher-criteria-download\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">IBPA\u2019s guide<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> for a detailed hybrid publisher assessment criteria.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">If you want to keep even more of the sales revenue, self-publishing platforms often let you take 50\u201370%, and without a publisher overlooking everything, you also have <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/2021\/08\/17\/the-myths-of-self-publishing-by-janelle-riley\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">more creative control over your work<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><strong>On the other hand,<\/strong> you\u2019ll have to personally hire an editor, a designer, and possibly a marketer to make sure your book has a fighting chance in the market.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The good news is, you\u2019re less likely to come across editors or designers who are scammers, since you can see portfolios and testimonials of their work quite easily.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><strong>However, you might see predators act as marketers<\/strong>\u2014after all, scammers love making big promises like, \u201cI can make you a bestseller!\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Don\u2019t go for marketers with big but vague promises; find someone who offers concrete goals like building an author website or getting your book into a BookBub newsletter.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><strong>Most importantly,<\/strong> make sure they\u2019re not charging you way above the <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/blog.reedsy.com\/cost-to-self-publish-a-book\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">average cost of self-publishing a book<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">.<\/span><\/p>\n<h2><b>3. It\u2019s a Publishing Scam if Their Name Is on this List<\/b><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The list I\u2019m talking about is <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/accrispin.blogspot.com\/2019\/08\/from-philippines-not-with-love-plague.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">the one compiled by Victoria Strauss<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> for Writer Beware: a collection of 125 publishing scam companies based in the Philippines that mostly target self-published writers.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><strong>These companies might offer agency services to help you reach traditional publishers<\/strong>, or they might say they\u2019ll republish or market your self-published title for a fee.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We already know that cold calls and high fees are indications of predatory businesses. If you\u2019re suspicious of a company, you can go to Victoria\u2019s list and see if it\u2019s there\u2014and if it is, give it a hard pass!<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><strong>Since the list isn\u2019t exhaustive<\/strong>, a company might still be a scammer even when you can\u2019t find its name in Victoria\u2019s post. As with the rest of the tips I\u2019ve shared in this post, this is just a pointer to help you out a bit.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">It\u2019s always best to do some more research before you give a verdict.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I hope that this post has given you some more information on how to identify and avoid vanity presses and unreliable companies.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Feel free to spread the word and share your own experiences with fellow authors!<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">***<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Want to read more articles like this one Writer\u2019s Fun Zone? <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/contact-beth\/#signup\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Subscribe here.<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<p>***<\/p>\n<h2>ABOUT THE AUTHOR<\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/Thao-Nguyen_image-for-WFZ-scaled.jpeg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-24011\" title=\"Thao Nguyen\" src=\"https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/Thao-Nguyen_image-for-WFZ-296x300.jpeg\" alt=\"Thao Nguyen\" width=\"148\" height=\"150\" srcset=\"https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/Thao-Nguyen_image-for-WFZ-296x300.jpeg 296w, https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/Thao-Nguyen_image-for-WFZ-1010x1024.jpeg 1010w, https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/Thao-Nguyen_image-for-WFZ-768x779.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/Thao-Nguyen_image-for-WFZ-1514x1536.jpeg 1514w, https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/Thao-Nguyen_image-for-WFZ-2019x2048.jpeg 2019w, https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/Thao-Nguyen_image-for-WFZ-640x649.jpeg 640w, https:\/\/writersfunzone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/Thao-Nguyen_image-for-WFZ-80x80.jpeg 80w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 148px) 100vw, 148px\" \/><\/a>Thao Nguyen writes about history, diasporic experiences, and writing. You can find her work in <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/literallystories2014.com\/2020\/04\/03\/of-empty-and-sliding-by-thao-nguyen\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Literally Stories<\/a><\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/anaksastra.com\/current-issue.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Anak Sastra<\/a><\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, or on Twitter <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/thao__to\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">@thao__to<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">***<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Editor\u2019s Note: Resources for developing your story and your characters so that you have diversity in your writing:<\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Plan Your Novel course: <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/school.bethbarany.com\/p\/30daywc\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">https:\/\/school.bethbarany.com\/p\/30daywc<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Craft Compelling Characters: <\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/school.bethbarany.com\/courses\/enrolled\/compelling-characters\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">http:\/\/school.bethbarany.com\/courses\/enrolled\/compelling-characters<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Getting published is hard enough, but in addition, there are plenty of publishing scams that would love to drain your money and squander your hard work. 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